Should Dennis Smith Jr. start? PLUS Stangin’ or Clangin’: Mark Williams, Kelly Oubre, bagels, etc

The Charlotte Hornets continue to struggle offensively without LaMelo on the floor, but is that the only reason? How much would DSJ’s presence in the starting lineup help the offense along with Mark Williams? Finally the guys play Stangin’ or Clangin’ and listen to Steve Clifford discuss defense.

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Are there any tweaks the Charlotte Hornets can make to their offense that Was brutal this weekend just like it was The first couple of games without lamelo Ball we'll do that plus play a game of Staying or clanging all today on Lockdown oils You were locked on hornets part of the Locked on podcast Network your team Every day in America we live It's locked on Hornets a part of the Locked on podcast Network it's your team Every day thanks for making us your First listen we're free and available Anywhere you get your podcast today's Episode is brought to you by prize picks First time users can receive a 100 Instant deposit match up to 100 with Promo code locked on that's Prizepigs.com promo code locked on I'm Walker Mayo find me on WFNZ from 12 to 3 And that's Doug Branson find his sub Stack everyone at the box score on every Hornetsboxstore.com and you can also Listen to him laugh at me for I think Like the first 30 seconds we're into the Show for some reason I I wasn't I'm Sorry I wasn't laughing at you sometimes I don't listen to you a lot when you're Talking right so I'm just really just Thinking about things that I'm I'm Thinking about and so what I was doing I Wasn't laughing at you I was laughing Because I was looking at the camera and

I thought to myself well I feel taller Today and then I realized it's because I'm wearing tennis shoes and typically When I do the show I don't wear I don't Wear socks I don't wear shoes I mean You're lucky if I'm wearing pants Because you don't see me from the waist Down but anyway I'm wearing tennis shoes Today and I was like wow I feel taller It is weird because there are so many Times where I want to figure out what Pants I need to wear but you can't see You have zero clue what kind of pants I'm wearing you just have to get I'm not Even going to tell you you just have to Guess if I'm wearing pants or if I'm not Pantsing or not pantsing I might be Wearing the bee costume under this and Have a little stinger out back there you Don't know you can't see you can't see Whatsoever all you can see is the shirt And the hair so I'll take care of the Hat if not I'll put the product in it I'll put on a nice shirt and then we're Ready to go but Doug is telling you he's Even got shoes on today so this must be A big episode I don't know why this Weekend didn't necessarily call for it Because it was a brutal weekend We all knew it this offense is going to Be tough Doug it's it's really hard to Try to manufacture offense with this Team not having lamelo ball the first Game we saw without lamelo and full was

Against Phoenix but they're a really Good defensive team they just had Kevin Durant they only scored 91 points Against Orlando 106 at least they got to The century mark and against Brooklyn Just last night on the road they lost 102 to 86 and it's just really tough Offensively you think there are some Problems though outside of just not Having lamelo ball that there are some Other things to point to well yeah Because I I think it's fair to ask you Know what's changed because they've been Without lamelo ball a lot this season And they were without him for a vast Majority of the beginning of this Regular season and they weren't this bad Offensively I mean you can point to a Game against the Chicago Bulls when they They barely scored I don't I think they Scored 88 they didn't even score 90 Points so there were some outlier type Games when they played really good Defensive teams but General early they Were competent offensively Walker for The past couple of games they have not Even been competent offensively so I Guess the question is yeah obviously you Know lamello being out is going to hurt Your offense but what has changed to Make them dramatically worse at offense And I think it's a couple of things They've been missing PJ Washington but He comes back I guess it's going to take

Him a little time but he's come back he Looked bouncy but he was also shooting Poorly he finished three of eleven from The field so I don't think he Dramatically changes the calculus of the Offense the ball's just not moving it's Sticking in the hands of Terry Rozier And Kelly oubre and I think the big Difference between now and then well There's two differences number one is That this there really are no more Stakes right I mean you're not you're Really not playing for anything you're Trying to play well but you're not You're not playing for anything like you Know a play in run or anything like that The second change is that you're not Starting Dennis Smith Jr and I think That's what I've been digging in the Past couple of of games is like I think Starting dsja would fix a lot of these Problems because you know the ball Because really the ball is sticking in The hands of Rozier and Kelly oubre Right now and it's not going to the Second side of the floor yeah so you're Saying they need a point guard is what You're saying right because Dennis Smith Jr is the point guard and lamello is the Point guard and they are not starting Dennis Smith Jr and they don't have Lamelo's availability that's right right And I thought that with PJ coming back You get a little bit more offense you

Trade that for JT Thor who was just Just not shooting the ball well I mean You know he does I'm he does a lot of Things and Clifford makes sure to Mention that Thor does a lot of things That just sort of make you know the Defense work and make the team play a Little bit better but shooting is not One of them so you get a little bit more Offense back on the floor with PJ I Thought that would mean that you would Have license then to move dsj into the Starting lineup because he's getting Plenty of minutes it's not about dsj not Getting enough minutes but it's how you Start these games I mean they they were Totally incompetent offensively to start Both of these contests and then as soon As dsj gets on the floor you know he's Throwing lobs up to Mark Williams he's Making nice passes he's not shooting the Ball well either but at least he gets Your offense moving yeah and you Mentioned the slow starts by the way That that's exactly what Steve Clifford Talked about against Phoenix you saw it Again against the Brooklyn Nets in this Game I want to see the first quarter Outcome against the Orlando Magic uh Yeah they lost 31-26 I mean just a Five-point deficit there but the other Two games I mentioned it did have some Pretty slow starts and you're right Dennis Smith Jr six assists in each of

His last three games I believe there was A seven assist total in the game he Played before the three game stretch of Six assists we know that this is someone That has had that ability all year right Like if you look at his assist numbers Off of the bench they've been good the Shooting it dramatically declined after A nice start at the beginning he was Also injured and so when he came back From his injury Dennis Smith Jr's shot Never really did if he's going to have a Nice scoring game it's going to be him Driving it's going to be him getting to The rack maybe even putting a few nice Dunks on you but that's what dsj can do The other part about this Doug is it's All about Mark Williams items if you are One Hornet fan that believes everything Post lamello injury is all about Mark Williams right that means Dennis Smith Jr has to be playing with Mark as much As any player on the Hornets roster and You should be thinking that honestly and The team should be thinking that because I don't think that there's any Indication that they are going to PL That they're really going to get to any Kind of competent level with Terry Rozier and Kelly ubrey as your starting Back court I just think we figured that Out now I mean Zero ball movement I mean it's just what It is right it is just what it is and so

I think DSA is part of it but also like What about Teo maladone yeah I mean Remember him remember that name I mean He was a guy that came in early in the Season and surprised a lot of people and And played confidently as a point guard And was able to distribute knock down Some threes occasionally and we just we Uh the theo-malidone is Theo maldock Gone And we don't know where he is and I wish They'd bring him back because I think They could use his ball movement right Now yeah he was gone as quick as he came In the rapid a song Just it also Exemplifies how fast song the quick five From Tayo Teo got on so fast go come on Bring it back why not yeah he was he was Fun he was fun everybody loved him as Soon as it started and now I think he Was one of the guys on a two-way Contract too and I think you do have Some obligation to fulfill in Greensboro And so don't know what that time is I Know they had to convert the contract For Bryce McGowan's out of a two-way They got that done so I don't know what Happened with Teo but you're right maybe You could have some facilitating off of The bench rather at uh be just Dennis Smith Jr the only facilitator really off Of the bench who's not even starting and And we'll get there we'll get to it Because it's in the second segment

Because it's part of my staying in her Klingon but Mark Williams can't be Like your best distributor in your Starting lineup like it's crazy like Mark Williams can't be your best passer He should be being passed to not the Other way around Yeah that's a glass half full half empty Thing it's like oh that's great he's Really improving as a passer but man We've also had badcorp players in the League for seven eight years so you know Mark Williams probably should not be That but the passing is there I do think The the Improvement is pretty visible For Mark there Walker one more thing Okay so we've been saying you know start Dsj because we're saying these things Because I think you and I both think it Is important for Mark Williams Development but also the development of A team that's largely going to be the Same team we see next year with maybe a Few tweaks around the edges it's Important for them to play well and then Use that as a springboard into next Season okay but but If they did want to sneak tank I mean this would this is the way the Mandalorian right this is the way if Clifford wanted a sneak tank you say Look I'm playing my veterans I'm playing The best five players that I have to Play what do you want from me and you

Sneak tank oh yeah the problem is I Don't know if there's any other way to Not tank right like even the thing is it Looks a lot better the offense can score A little more but They're still tanking with Dennis Smith Jr starting the game but you're right It's it's I don't know if you watch my I Don't know if you watch my Friday recap Episode but I mentioned that Clifford Almost every press conference is Lowering the bar first it was look we're Not going to go out there and score 135. All right and then the next game it was Look we're not gonna we're not a team That can go out and score 125. and let Me just say Steve I see you I hear you I Appreciate you because I'm all about Lowering the bar baby you just sneak it In there you say look you know I'm gonna Do uh you know I'm gonna be here for Five shows a week and then and then I'm Like Walker I gotta take a day off but Don't worry it'll be the last one I take And then suddenly I'm taking 30 days off A week I hear you Clifford I see you I Love your game there you go all right That is the one Steve Clifford now Lowering the bar uh we're gonna lower The bar as the show goes on as well That's what we're gonna try to do so we Can reach it and reach our goals coming Up next lockdown Hornets Don't go to sleep on the Hornets just

Yet We're going to discuss staying in her Clang and we got another game I don't Know how many things we think we got Four of them and then I'll include a Couple here but Mark Williams staying in Her clanging and uh we also have an Addition from Doug going to a kid's Birthday party so stick around and Listen to all of that this episode is Brought to you by prize picks you can Pick two to six players and if they Score more or less than their prize Picks projection you can win up to 25 Times your money on any entry and There's no competing against other People it's just you versus the Projections available they offer Projections on really any sport that you Watch that includes the big three the NBA NFL and MLB it also includes men's And women's college basketball even Euro Basketball disc golf soccer Esports NASCAR all that good stuff entries can Be made in 60 seconds or less it's that Easy you also have safe and fast Withdrawals and they're currently Operational in over 30 States and even Canada so download the prizefix app or Go to prizefix.com to sign up and play Daily fantasy sports first time you Users can receive a 100 instant deposit Match up to 100 with promo code locked On if you deposit 100 price fix gives

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Rules to this game you make up the rules As you go along I'm gonna hold it just To this weekend but I'll still say that He's staying and I still think that he Reaches the level of staying in at this Point because he's consistently putting Up uh double digit rebound numbers and He can easily go out there and score 10 Points now which you know if you do the Math there beep Boop that means he's a Solid double double right now like I Mean and you know on a team that's Really struggling for consistency he has Been a model of it now you know a lot of What he's been doing has been you know Janitorial services cleaning up other People's messes but that's not his fault That's that's because he needs to be Distributed to this is not a guy that You work the ball to and he he works a Bunch of Magic on his own no they've got To get him more involved in the pick and Roll but that means playing him with Players that can actually actually Execute on that pick and roll and care About getting him going uh so I I think He's been staying and now his Unfortunately against Brooklyn uh his Block streak ended at 11. he was one of The active Leaders with Mitchell Robinson for consecutive games with a Block that unfortunately ended he did Get credited with a steal this is funny She didn't do a lot a ton of recapping

Of The Hornet's Nets game other than Diagnosing what their ultimate problem Was but uh the Hornets did not record a Block or steal until like the 5 minute Mark of the third quarter and that was Mark Steele but anyway Um staying in Mark Williams yeah just Letting the Net score everywhere it Reminds me a little bit of Summer League Doug for Mark when we were discussing he Might actually be better offensively When he makes it to the big leagues and He actually plays with lamelo because You have a better point guard and Remember how we had the Jalen Crutcher Tyshawn Alexander whatever it you Weren't dealing with a lot of fantastic Point guards Mitch cup check took a lot Of heat for that when he assembled the Summer league team and we thought the Offense might come a little better for Mark Williams once he plays for the Charlotte Hornets now it took a while Also to enter the rotation but now here You are again no you are not dealing With the players that I just mentioned You're still dealing with Terry Rozier And Kelly ubray that is better but You're also not have it you just don't Have the guys that created opportunities For you nearly as much I mean the pick And pop it's really Gordon Hayward that Can help help you out as much as anybody As a ball handler in the pick and roll

Who isn't Dennis Smith Jr and you might Be relying on some jump shots there just To create some offense if you are also Not grabbing offensive rebounds so That's the way that Mark Williams is Able to manufacture offense next one on The list here Doug MLS soccer on Apple TV plus staying in her clanging oh man It's stinging I'm gonna I know it's a Strange thing to bring up here but I'm Gonna sort of bring it back to at least The NBA so this weekend I decided all Right look uh summer's coming up Basketball is ending it's going to end Sooner than I'd like it to for the Charlotte Hornets April 9th looks to be The last time we'll get to see the Hornets until uh you know next September October So I I wanted to pick up a sports uh That I could watch casually uh and I've Kind of weaned myself off of the NFL for A number of reasons I would have to get Into on this show uh but so I decided Yeah it's not worth it Um so I decided to take a look at old Soccer soccer is always sitting there I Watched the world cup I got excited About the World Cup uh and Apple tv plus Is doing this whole thing where you sign Up it's really easy and then you get all Access to all the games and and I didn't Even know this when I signed up until I Looked at all the schedule they like

Play once a week I'm like yes this is an Investment that uh 30-something dad who Doesn't go out anymore can really get Behind I Need Just A once a week hit of Sports the clock doesn't stop I'm Totally into it but the whole experience Of like signing up and then I watch the Games and it was just so clean and Wonderful and everything worked and I'm Just like man I wish my Hornets Experience was like this because I Watched the Nashville game I watched a Little bit of the Charlotte game I was Like man I wish my NBA Hornets Experience could be like this and this All has to do with sort of the death of The rsns it isn't it is uh coming they Are going bankrupt and it couldn't come Sooner honestly um because I'm sure all The people that have jobs with the RSN Are going to get picked up by the NBA or Whatever streaming service decides to Take over these NBA rights at some point But the RSN model doesn't work it's a Horrible viewing experience it's bad for The customer and I can't wait until the NBA gets involved with the streaming Service or creates their own streaming Service fixes league pass and we all get To watch NBA like it was meant to be Watched I know there's two questions Though because MLS they play a long time They play a large portion of the year is That a cell is that a benefit or is that

A detriment that you have to stay Invested only once a week for sure but You do have to stay invested a lot Longer than you would say in NFL season That is not nearly as long yeah I'm not Certain I'll report back on that I Really don't know what I'm getting into Honestly but I've paid for the season I Went ahead and paid straight up and I Said all right I'm going to get involved Here I'm going to see what this is all About uh yeah but I think they if I'm if I'm not mistaken they stop and play some Tournaments I don't know listen soccer's Weird I know that uh but I'm gonna you Know I'm gonna hang around and see what This whole deal is about I'm Gonna Keep I'm here in Nashville Tennessee so I'm Gonna probably follow the local team Because we can go to games and I think That's just gonna make me like stick With this thing a little bit more and I've got you know the kiddo and I think That could be fun but I'm Gonna Keep one Eye on Old CFC on Charlotte football Club or whatever it is so I want to keep An eye on it I'm gonna figure this whole Thing out okay good I promise I'm not Trying to dominate the show with soccer But I do think one cool feature that I Saw now I I do not subscribe but I I did See one um one feature they have is that You can choose to listen to the radio Broadcast as you're watching the game

Which I think is an awesome feature you Don't have to do it you just give the Customer the freedom to do so if you Applied this to the Hornets that nobody Is clicking off of Eric Collins well That's not true somewhat polarizing but Most people love them but I just think That's an awesome idea and then in the Steve Martin days that would have been Fantastic just to listen to Steve Whenever you wanted to and then go back And forth I just it's a cool feature do What you want but I just like the option There okay well two things on that Number one I I think it is a cool option But I think the main Studio teams have The better accents so I like listening To the accents the Scottish accents not A British accents right and so I'm not Going to list you know National radio Guys I appreciate you I hear you I see You but I want to hear the accents when I'm listening to soccer honestly it Makes it makes the whole experience for Me to to hear somebody uh yell out goal In a Scottish accent okay If you want to listen to Charlotte FC Just real quickly Willy P American but Jessica charman she is from England so You get a little bit you get the best of Both yeah Charlotte FC represent well The set I actually have three things now The second thing is that the radio teams It appears you can only listen to the

Home radio team and I imagine there's Some away travel expense maybe that is Not really applicable to MLS so I don't Know what's going on there the third Thing is that the NBA and the league Pass actually do allow you now if you Pay for the premium so this is the whole Problem like MLS soccer Apple TV it's One fee and you get everything that's What I want so this premium thing on Leak pass does allow you to watch the Studio broadcast of the Hornets uh again You can't obviously blackouts are a Thing in the NBA they're not an MLs that Needs to change as well but if if you're Like me and you're away from Charlotte You can watch the studio feed meaning You can watch pre-game post game the Fast break that they do in between the Third and the fourth quarter you get it All and you're you know so that's that Is something that at least it seems like Everything is moving towards I think This Apple TV Plus like experience it's Just taking forever to get there because You have to unwind all of these Legacy Media you know BS that has been created Over the years All right that was our soccer uh we Really could go to the last segment that Was a soccer edition of the show let's Go rapid fire Uh Kelly ubray staying at her playing in Utah I mean he was staying well he was

Staying against you know Orlando but They still lost uh knocking down shots But you know ultimately it's just it's Not his fault I I really want him to be On the bench because you look at that First quarter against Brooklyn zero Bench points they missed the bench Missed all seven shots they need Kelly Oubre coming in at the end of the first Quarter to help out their offense in Terms of just shooting the basketball uh But he was clanging in that game against The Nets well I mean yeah and and even When lamelo went out 38 minutes 41-35 Compared to the 23-22-28 he played when He returned in that Minnesota game That's lamelo being out that's Kelly Also just getting back in the swing of Things post injury he did a throw up 24 Shots against Phoenix right and that was Kind of their offensive identity was hey Terry hey Kelly throw up all the shots In the world but having no lamello That's something that allows for that to Happen all right last one here Um you had really good bagels at a kid's Birthday party really good bagels sounds Like it's staying into me it's amazing It's staying absolutely look so I go to A kid's birthday party and I expect like Some cake maybe a few like you know Maybe some chips or something and maybe Some small sandwiches I don't know I Just don't associate like a great food

Experience with my with a kid's birthday Party uh you know I'm thinking like Sheet cake from the teat from Harris Teeter you know and this was not that I Get I get there and they've got these Bagels amazing New York style bagels and I'm just like yes why don't more people Do this is it bagels are relatively Affordable this is not you know you're Not priced out of this kind of thing and They were amazing you had a selection of Cream cheeses options I Love Options Bagels really great bagels and kids Birthday party it was a it was something That I again I don't associate the two Things kind of came out of left field And I loved it Stang it okay I mean That's a great one that is an excellent Dismount to staying in a clinging you Know what else would be good at a kid's Birthday party coming up next unlocked On Hornets Don't go to sleep on the Hornets just Yet We'll finish out the show with a great Steve Clifford sound bite but would be Great at a kid's birthday party they're Built bars that's right this episode is Brought to you by Bill bars and if You're looking for a delicious treat but Don't let all of the fat and the Calories then you gotta try a build bar That just got through the holidays I Know a lot of people have I know my goal

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Thriving Doug the the morning that's Just how it is but this is what we do to Make the show go on and when you hear me At noon from 12 to 3 that's when I got a Little bit more of a pep in my staff but In the morning it's just tough and That's why I've already got a really low Voice and so when it's in the morning And you add a little phlegm sprinkles on There that's when it gets real tough to Just fight through and and talk flakes Yeah you get your bowl today I mean We're serving them up here on the Lockdown Hornets podcast it's real Brutal and so it sounds dead pan all the Time I just I need to get more life I Need to I've tried caffeine I've tried Everything trying to just the morning it Look it's just not my time to thrive That's just how it is some people can Some people can't Doug you are one of Those people that can Yeah that's how it is and we can move on And that's a great yeah see that I bring Up bad points let's go let's go to Steve Clifford who can make it work anywhere Man let's listen to him talk about Defense nikayas Duncan great basketball Writer really covers the heat but covers Everybody in the association he asked The question about defense that got Steve Clifford excited right he likes Talking basketball totally agree with His tweet when he says he's one of the

More candid coaches in all of the NBA Love hearing Steve Clifford talk he gets Excited at the podium actually if you Want to dive a little bit deeper then The normal surface level questions and Here he is talking about where defense Is headed as the NBA continues to just Be a force offensively yeah I mean it's Interesting because One of the things that's changed is what You said really the offense is having Become simpler what we do is we just Play better offensive players You know we play less size more skill More shot making more shock creation uh It used to be even six seven years ago You know the differences in offensive Within the league was dramatic you know Um if you played a pops team was a lot Different than Doc's team or suppose Team and now to be honest Everybody Plays pretty much the same way I mean It's about Pace we run the same sets Um everybody has different names but There's not a lot of difference you know Miami's a little different with what They do Golden State's unique because They play a lot better without the ball Than everybody else does but for the Most part You're not nearly as challenged Defensively to make adjustments in terms Of game planning from day to day you Have to be able to have better

Principles I for me I think and we Haven't been good defensively But to me is you have to be more Aggressive I just don't think you can Sit back like you used to you know even Five or six years ago if you got back on Defense if you didn't foul and if you Could rebound Um you're good to go you know unless You're pick and roll defenses and stuff We're terrible now when you play a team Like tonight with the amount of space They have on the floor to play to me you Can't Sit back in a hole and hope they miss You know you've got to have ways to Double team you have to have ways to Take the ball out of Devon's hands Chris's hands Kevin's hands most teams Don't have three of them And then you have to be good with your Principles too yeah if you want to look At it There's I think two of the top seven Defensive teams right now that if you Look at their coverages and stuff They're not good But they're great at same thing they Don't give up fast break points they Rebound the ball and they don't foul This still that part Remains the Same I Just think there's more to it now you've Got to be aggressive that's where I Think too for me and we started to do it

A little bit but I think the use of the Zone is going to continue to grow in our League too There's a school it's a school right There we just went to school we did well And it's that's what's awesome about Talking with Steve Clifford I was you Know teasing it that way but nikayas Feels the same way That that's what you want as a media Member you want to dive into the Basketball brain you don't want to get The cliche stuff and I know there's a Lot of training that goes into just Giving you the cliche stuff but Steve Clifford he likes talking about that and That was true during his first stand That's been true here and if you ask a Little bit more of an insightful Question if you if you dig into the Weeds just a little bit I asked him About Gordon hayward's pick and roll Ball handling now that lamelo's out and Then working with Mark Williams and then He went into the importance of how pick And roll dominates the league today and If you have the good numbers and he went Into some of the numbers with the Hornets team and he just went you know Extreme extreme depth there with the uh With the defense what'd you make of that Sound bite from Steve I think it's all Interesting stuff I mean we've seen him Go to the Zone a few times this season

And I was super surprised I didn't think That that was something that we would See from Steve Clifford but he's Obviously evolving uh his mindset even From that first stint in Charlotte I Mean he's meant and the game has changed Significantly since he was here the last Time when he led one of those teams uh To well two of those teams to the first Round if you include the Bobcats and so You know I think that's that's a good Thing to hear the Steve Clifford's Evolving his defensive mindset I mean It's You know I think he's right there's not A ton of size on the floor anymore it is A lot of skill I think the problem with The Hornets is that they don't have a Lot of size and they're not physical It's one thing before this Nets game That he was he was really calling out is Like we need to be more physical you can You can still be a smaller team and get Your hands dirty and the Nets were Willing to do that early in this game And the Hornets were not and they Suffered because of it uh but yeah You're seeing I mean if you look at These games you can see uh Clifford Trying to install some some different Coverages some different double teams I Was surprised they you know after Mikhail Bridges went Knight of nine to Start the game I was surprised they

Didn't throw a couple at him but you go Back to that Phoenix game and they were Just like look all right we're gonna Take away we're going to try to take Away Devin Booker every time he touches The ball double team and then what do You do out of that double team how do You react whenever the Hornets double The Nets the Nets is just so good at Moving the ball like it was it was Beautiful to watch but also made me Angry to watch how good the Nets were Because when you attract them even when The Hornets played good defense and Rotated out of that trap the Nets would Still their passes were so clean and so Quick the decisions were so quick that They had open threes all over the floor But yeah I mean it's I think it's it's Interesting No it is and listening to Steve Clifford Talk about that I mean it's real cool Just to dive a little bit deeper into Some of the thoughts of Steve Clifford Go ahead well it's it's like also hey Cliff there's a whole cottage industry Out there about making all of this NBA Offensive stuff hard with the Terminology and stuff and like making it Seem like it's like calculus so I'm sure A lot of those people are like Steve Steve my man my man like ease up on Saying like everybody does the same Thing and it's all easy and it's all

Name changes you know we're trying to be Out here and confusing people when Honestly you know with the with the way That guys play offense today yeah I'm Sure there's there obviously is strategy And you're wanting to move the ball in Certain directions and do certain things And what do you do out of this pick and You know how do you how do you read and React but so much of the read and react I think is not on the clipboard the Reading react is like the point guard All right you have one action to set up The play and then the point guard is Looking and saying all right here are my Three options now now that this thing is Developed now because the defender did This took one you know Jeremy Lin used To talk about this when uh when he was Here you know just one guy taking a half Step back instead of forward you know For lamello they can see that slower Than we can see it and then they go all Right what does that mean and you're Running all of these things in your mind That that's the interesting part about I Think how offense is because they've Become so fast That so much more of the offensive Strategy is now landing on your point Guard than on your coach And point and I think that's good for The Hornets if they decide to stick with Steve Clifford because I think even back

In his first stint he relies a lot on His point guard then Kemba now lamelo to Execute a lot of the offense and the Problem now is he's relying on Terry Rozier and Kelly ubra to do that and you Know that's not fair honestly because uh Terry Rozier and Kelly Ray shouldn't be Doing that so honestly I would say Steve Maybe rely on dsj a little bit more all Right thanks for making lockdown Hornets Your first listen today now make your Second listen game to game NBA every Moment every top performance every Result locked on game to game covers Every game from across the NBA with Local analysis that only lockdown can Deliver follow game to game on lockdown NBA available on the Odyssey app YouTube And wherever you get your podcast thanks For joining us making us your first Listen once again have a great rest of Your day Foreign Foreign

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