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We'll take a look into the current Hornets free agent situation then update You on both of our lists the top 35 Hornets players of all time and the top 35 Hornets nicknames of all time all Today unlocked on Hornets who are locked On hornets part of the locked on podcast Network your team every day in America We live It's locked on horn it's part of the Lockdown podcast Network it's your team Every day thanks for making us your First listen we're free and available Anywhere you get your pods and that does Include YouTube this episode is brought To you by FanDuel Sportsbook the Official sports book of locked on make Every moment more visit fanduel.com lock On today to get started that's Doug Branson you can find his work on his sub Stack every hornetsboxcore.com you're Sitting down again Doug did you squat Once more or did you decide to you know Quit working out after one day uh you Know I almost quit almost did Um but I'm thinking about my my baby I Do have a baby I don't know if you know This you know I want to stay healthy for The baby I want to try to keep it yeah My toddler now do we change the saying Or is it always a baby I have a baby Okay it's always a baby Um so you want to understand Walker you Don't have a child you wouldn't
Understand you don't get it um so yeah Today is a workout day today's leg day Uh so you know thoughts and prayers But yeah you know I'm sitting it's fine I think it's good I think I can maintain My energy we've got these lists to get To I mean I did I did way too much Research for my list but I think people Are going to enjoy it uh so I'm I'm Excited I don't think anything's going To get me down here in Silly Season Well and and it's so great because I Told you how nervous I was because I Wasn't prepared I had not done enough Research at the time now I have but at The time you said Walker you're putting Way too much research into this list it Is not it does not call for that and now Here you are doing a hornet's nickname List and you're thinking that you Probably have done too much research but We're gonna find out we'll bring that to You in the second and third segment I'm Walker mail you can listen to me on WFNZ Sports radio 92 7 uh FM every weekday From 12 to 3 P.M let's take a look at Some of the current Hornets here or you Know I guess guys that could be Hornets But aren't they're just floating in Space in the free agent Market here on August 9th no determination that has Been made P.J Washington free agent Still Kelly oubre free agent Teo Maladone free agent it if you were to
Rank the top three free agents right now I think most lists would have PJ and Kelly in that top three in Christian Wood yeah another former Hornet he's Just there as well you have had to Don The purple and teal in order to be a Best available free agent here this late Into the off season let's start with PJ Doug or we honestly can start anywhere You want what do you make of both of uh PJ and Kelly and then to a lesser extent Teo maladone who did help this Hornets Team what do you make of all these guys Still being free yeah I'm surprised that We haven't had any movement we've had a Couple of rumors out there about some Interest from the Cleveland Cavaliers Although you know looking at their cap Sheet for PJ yeah for PJ Washington Looking at their cap sheet nothing makes Sense to me like a lot of it revolves Around Jared Allen which why does that Make sense for the Hornets at this point When they have Mark Williams uh who's Going to apologize but you're thinking Sign and trade for PJ is what you're Saying as far as it doesn't make sense For them cap wise right yes yeah well And I think you know any kind of Movement for for PJ to go to another Team is going to involve sign and trade I guess I assumed that people would know That because I don't think that a team At this point line is going to throw out
An offer for PJ Washington the options Are at this point he signs the Qualifying offer plays out the year and Becomes an unrestricted free agent like Miles Bridges or the Hornets and PJ come To some kind of agreement that probably Revolves around the 13 14 million Dollars per year area it's like slightly Above the mid-level exception but Nowhere near the 18 million dollars that 18 to 20 that he's wanted demanded Whatever you know word you want to use There Or the the final option would be some Kind of sign and trade and so when you Look at Cleveland's cap sheet nothing Makes sense to me there the Mavericks Also a name that I keep seeing among These rumors even though you know they Got Grant Williams we know that but They're still they want to win the Dallas Mavericks are desperate to win While they have this Luka doncic Kyrie Irving window and so I don't think it'd Be out of the realm of possibility for Them to continue to add three and D Talent which is what PJ is so so all That to say I think this ultimately ends With PJ returning to the Charlotte Hornets but the Hornets are playing Hardball right now and I don't know how Long this is going to take it took a While to sign Kelly ubray in free agency When they did so a couple of years ago
So I think the Hornets are going to be Patient with this one as well this Doesn't feel like a year where they they Are desperate to contend so you know They're not exactly and you heard Even Rick schnall made it like a throwaway Comment of like if PJ's coming back in That uh either the media availability After the press conference I don't think It was said at the press conference but During one of the media availabilities He said you know if PJ comes back so you Know they're playing Hardball right now We're going to see how we're going to See how it turns out Yeah yeah I mean the PJ Washington one The market is weird how it played out Asking for money that no other team is Willing to give him an offer sheet and You know call the Hornets on it at least And so a team like Dallas they go after Grant Williams who was only just to take Above the mid-level exception remember When we had those rumors about the Hornets being interested in Grant Williams but just a little too much Above the mid-level exception Dallas Able to pay it and so they go after him And the Hornets they weren't willing to Go a set above the mle and that's how Dallas is able to land grant and now You're right I mean they are playing Hardball with PJ you and I both have Done the Kelly oubre episode where as we
Go deeper into the off season due to the Chances increase that he returns to Charlotte but you and I both have said No the face indicates that you might Have different thoughts here Doug do you Have different thoughts on the chances Of Kelly oubre returning I feel like I Go back and forth every day like every Morning I wake up at the idea the first Episode that we brought it up yeah now It's uh now it's a little limboy I know But you know again I can't fall back on A couple of things one I don't think the Hornets are really serious about making Moves in the Eastern Conference if it Happens great like they're it's not like They're trying to lose but I also I Think they are in a liminal State uh This this off season where there they They don't really want to contend to do What it takes to spend the money to go After the players I mean really all That's been done at this point that you Couldn't even acquire the talent really At this point to make that kind of move So but I don't think they're trying to Lose either they really want to evaluate I think this new group wants to evaluate You know who's going to move forward With this team and who they don't and Maybe honestly secretly maybe they want PJ to sign the qualifying offer for that Reason again it Contin it continues to Give you flexibility just like the miles
Bridges signing the qual qualifying Offer you know yeah you have no leverage Now they become unrestricted free agents But you now have flexibility in the off Season where you haven't committed Multiple years of money to certain Players and that's going to you know cap Strap you at a certain point But back to ubre I do go back and forth But ultimately I land on the fact that They're not trying to contend and They've got they got to get a good look At Miller honestly they should get a Good look at Cody Martin after he missed An entire season it's just his wing Rotation it's too I think deep at this Point of player not not deep in the Sense of like talent but deep in the Sense of players that you need to look At that that bringing back Uber doesn't Make any sense to me well and my Question too I know Kelly oubre said he Wants to be here in Charlotte but we Also have well-documented evidence of Kelly saying that he also wants a large Role he wants to play quite a bit and so If Kelly oubre wants to play a lot and He got that opportunity last year Because of all the injuries but won't Get as many minutes this year if he Returns because of Brandon Miller Because of Miles Bridges because Gordon Hayward as long as he's not traded is Still going to be a part of this thing
The minutes they dry up quickly so we Know Kelly likes Charlotte and those are Great comments and we've talked a lot About how much we respect Kelly still Getting up for every game at a time when They weren't winning a lot of games we Respect that we appreciate that but we Know what Kelly's about too we can only Go off of what his comments were in the Past and they were he wants to play by The way totally fine when we we've heard Him say that he thinks of himself as a Starter he wants to get a lot of minutes So now it might just be the right time For him to get as much money as possible Don't know if that would come here with The Hornets as they are playing Hardball Even with PJ and so if Kelly isn't going To get the money he wants here not going To get the playing time he wants here Then it might just be a situation where He doesn't want to come back regardless Of what Charlotte wants to do the second Order negative effects of Kelly and PJ Sitting in free agency is that it's it Kind of is a signal to other players Like hey don't come to Charlotte because If you come to Charlotte even if you're Kelly oubre and you you know up your Stats in a couple of categories and you Give it all you got and you make some Moves and you make some changes and you Adjust your game and you do all of these Things
Uh players are I mean teams are still Not going to love you for that and PJ Washington same thing set career highs All across the board uh this season but The Hornets don't make the playoffs and That means that players don't play in Those significant minutes the teams want To see they want to see how you do when The pressure's on before they invest a Ton of money into you and I think that's Part of the reason why PJ is still Sitting there and no teams made him at Least a significant enough offer we Don't know if there were zero offers but We don't we know that there wasn't an Offer significant enough for him to Accept it and sign it And so you know that that's it's A disturbing thing I think it's not a Positive thing that these players are Still sitting there because if you're a Player looking at this situation you go Man if I'm drafted by the Hornets or I Make a signing like Kelly oubre did then You know when it comes time for me to Sign that next deal I might be in Trouble So it's a great point PJ Washington changes the game Kelly Uber a respectable stuff at the end of The season so now it doesn't matter how Well you play or how you play with the Charlotte Hornets now no other team is Giving you an offer sheet and restrict
The free agency or a contract offer an Unrestricted free agency so now not only Is any team in the NBA that they're not Giving you any contract but the team That you actually helped your status With isn't giving you a contract here's Where I want to go with this During gay Plotkin and Rick Snell's Press conference and when Rick schnall Joined Kyle Bailey on WFNZ a couple of Days ago you can find it on wfnz.com They talked about Michael Jordan still Being a part of the organization he's Still in basketball Ops and so you don't Completely erase that image of the Previous regime because it's still there Because Michael is still yes a minority Owner minority 100 but he's still there And the way that Rick schnall and gay Plotkin are talking it's that they're Going to still hear what he has to say Now they're going to be respectful in The public eye I don't know what we're Going to have to see what happens in This five-year 10-year Warrick schnall Is head governor and then five years in Your after we get the snall calls and we Get to the Plotkin ploys but Michael Jordan right now is still a part of this Organization and with him still having a Lot of power you can't completely erase The image that came with the previous Regime for those 13 years that he was Had got well you can I just don't think
You can do it now I think you're right I Think there was a lot of respect there's A lot of transition happening a lot of Things that are being said right now to Make everyone feel all warm and fuzzy at Some point schnall and Plotkin have to Make a separation from the previous Regime that's true and I think it's Going to happen if the season goes Poorly in the middle of the Season or if It goes okay it'll happen at the end of The season when they do clean house and I think you're going to see in the next 12 to 12 I'll say 12 to 18 months I Think you're going to see a couple of Statements being made either through you Know actual statements or actions that Are taken that make you go okay this is An MJ's franchise anymore and if that Doesn't happen Walker then we'll look Back at this press conference I think in A much more negative light because we Were all like hey this is the diet coke Of of press conferences it's fought it Seems fine but it's all to me it's only A fine press conference if it's not Followed up by significant action that Turns this organization into a contender Sooner rather than later yeah maybe we Finish up some of those thoughts in the Next segment before we get to the list Coming up next on the lockdown Hornets Podcast don't go to sleep on the Hornets Just yet Rick schnall joined Kyle Bailey
We can get to some of those comments but Really those next segments are reserved For the top 35 Hornets of all time list And the top 35 Hornets nicknames of all Time lists it's coming up soon but not Before we talk about FanDuel this Episode is brought to you by FanDuel and Football season is here they're about to Kick off FanDuel is giving you the Chance to win all season long because Right now when you bet on a Super Bowl Winner you can get bonus bets every time They win the regular season just pick Any team to win the Super Bowl and You'll get bonus bets for every Victory You can use your bonus bets on spreads Player props overrunders and plenty more Than that so visit fanduel.com lockdown And start earning bonus Bets with America's number one sports book that's Fanduel.com locked on again fanduel.com Lockdown or lockdown Hornets coming up Next Is locked on Hornets But I have seen him go all the way up to Number 10. that was is there a warning Do I always get out of here okay here's The thing my I don't know if you heard But my watch went off and I was trying To silence it and then I accidentally Hit ping the phone and then the phone Pinged and and now here we are I'm doing my best man it seems like You're doing your very worst well
Sometimes it seems like you're I'm Actively fighting you today to move Sometimes my best is my worst It's time for more of the locked on Hornets podcast You brought up the long-term evaluation For Rick schnall and gameplotkin because You're right it is going to take a long Time to try to figure this out we had This conversation on WFNZ different Checkpoints that you can go to before we See real change and that's hard to do in The short term with new ownership Because it takes time before you see the Impact of new ownership now there are Different things that can come about I Know Rick wants to you know Rick schnall Was talking about this I call him Rick We're already buddies so Rick was Already saying about how they want to Have changes to the stadium pretty Immediately they want to get working on That right away they talked about the Practice facility Right right I don't know if there are Any checkpoints that we can get to in The short term and short-term meaning Within the next year to where we can Point to that and say okay New regime look at how you know look at The positive trajectory this franchise Is on I it's going to take some time to Your point and so it'll be interesting To find some of those checkpoints that
We can get to okay here's a good level Here here's a place where we can set up Camp and measure what the Hornets have Done here's a place we can set up camp Measure what the Hornets have done it's Going to be the long game trying to Figure out the impact of this new regime Well they better be doing a lot of this A lot of finger crossing a lot of Praying to whatever gods they want to Pray to that this team stays healthy This season and outperforms expectations Now whether that means make the playoffs Or make the play in whatever it means it Really it means I think out doing the Vegas projections which are like around You know 30-ish wins you know if this Team wins 35 this team wins 40 they get Close to what they were a couple of Years ago then then I think people will Look fondly on the bets that schnall and Plotkin are partly responsible for Because they did have some voice they Did have some influence in this Franchise he confirmed it at least Plotkin did yeah and they they exactly They they have put their money on hey We've got a good foundation here we want To see what it can do okay when you've Done that when you've retained Mitch cup Check at least in the short term then That's where you're putting your bet and They better hope that bet pays off Because we know as a city what it looks
Like when a franchise gets off on the Wrong foot I mean that happened with Bob Johnson and the Charlotte Bobcats okay Right so you know this first year does Matter there's a lot on lamelo ball Shoulders there's a lot on the rest of This core shoulders at this point uh the The whole reputation of an ownership Group Uh yeah it just got me thinking has There been an NBA franchise that have That's gone through more ownership Change than Charlotte basketball fans I Mean because you have you have the Hornets that drop and the you know Inaugural season okay and then you're Discussing the Charlotte Hornets having A different franchise once they leave For New Orleans Michael Jordan buys that Franchise now here we are with Plotkin And schnall it doesn't seem you know so Since 2000 we've had four different Owner groups ownership groups in place There there can't be I mean there just Can't be in in North American Sports Doug there can't be that kind of Ownership change right I mean that's That's every five years yeah that's it's A strange thing for sure I I feel like Atlanta I feel like the Atlanta Hawks Makes sense to me I don't I can't Confirm that I have to really do some Research there but just I have a feeling That the Atlanta Hawks have changed
Ownership a lot I don't think so just Because we have the representative of The uh I forget but the the actress the Family she always she Um always uh is is the person the Representative of the Hawks franchise in The NBA draft lottery I forget her name But yeah anyways all right weird thing Let's go to the list Doug let's have Some fun so This is fun but also pretty excruciating At least for me because you know the top 35 Hornets list this list is made to be Ridiculed like I know what I'm getting Into I know what you put me in in fact This was my welcome to lockdown Hornets Party when you had me on this scene Right away you announce me hosting this Podcast here you go wolves eat okay That's what you said Um but now I'm in a much different space I feel very good about this list and the Changes I made to the previous list We'll see what we can do about that Um yeah I know thank you how do you you Want to do this by going like four or Five at a time maybe we just I I have Them broken off into sections oh my God So you know right just do five just so You're making this way more difficult Than it needs to be you're wasting time You're wasting precious time that you Could be using to analyze your list just Tell me give me five names or four names
Because we've already done hey hey look We've got plenty of time okay it's August 9th we've got plenty of time get Let's let's slow down the content train Why you're a producer why are you trying To speed this thing up so this section Is called from 35 to 31 the section the Theme of it is called Hornets Scoring it scorn it okay Hornets scoring it scoring it 35 the 35th best Hornet of all time I made a Change by the way sorry Cody you're Moving up Wait a minute you've already we've Already put the name on there you can't Change it already This is what's great you know what I've Realized in my five years of hosting the Show it's great because I can change it I thought about that I was like well you Already aired it I can't change it but I Was like wait yes I can you are Kevin You are Kevin o'conn man uh you are Phony gavoni right now you are Everything that I hate about sports Pundantry which is I'm gonna be right Until I'm wrong and then I'm gonna Change it so that I'm right go ahead Number 35. yeah all right number 35 Cody Zeller moves up 35 the hammer Armin Gilliam wow he makes the list at number 35. I'm less mad but I'm still mad all Right so Armin Gilliam we had to fit him In on the list but only you know we can
Go over it 34 is where Cody Zeller moves It's the only change you get a mulligan When you go out to the golf course you Get one Mulligan so that's what I had a Bad tee shot code seller moves up to 34. Just felt like Cody played too much to Be behind arm and Gilliam so Cody Zeller Moves to 34. you got the Fanfare ready I Got it ready all right 33. Gordon Hayward Wow wow Gordon makes a list Gordon was going to make the list I mean Well I think you were already making People angry because a lot of people Have some negative feelings about Gordon Hayward in his injury history 100 32 You're just gonna move you're not even Gonna address it you're just gonna move Past it we'll address it I said we'll Address it after I go through the five Lists you're the one that was hurrying Me out the door 32. Terry Rozier a lot of current this is a Current Hornet yeah list right here and 31 and we'll end here today for Hornets Scoring it scoring it Jason Richardson 31. Jay Rich slam dunk Maestro three point uh three point Specialist as well so here's what I was Thinking with this list right so let's Start with arm and Gilliam and Cody Zeller Cody Zeller we talked about the impact I Won't spend too much time on it but I
Just felt like he played too long and Still did have an impact with this team Where arm and Gilliam comes in and is Just like a 90-game mercenary in half Seasons right so he comes over in 1990 Or 1989 1990 season plays 60 games Starts 59 and then the 1990-91 season Only plays 25. so we're talking about Very limited time but close to a 20 Point per game score efficiency through The roof arm and uh Gilliam coming in With like eight nine rebounds a game he Was really good but man just not a lot Of time even for Hornet standards so I Wanted him to get on the list but not Above Cody who played a longer time with Gordon Hayward Gordon hayward's going to Be fascinating because if we go with Just the narrative stuff the contract Was too much they gave it to him at 30 Years old and by the end of it he was Going to be 34. you have to imagine They've looked to trade him he's not Been available as much but even with the Lack of availability we're talking about Him playing 143 Games Starting 142 and What's the what's the caveat we always Have Gordon Hayward when he's on the Floor he's good I don't think anybody really argues the Fact that when he's on the floor he's Good we can we can talk about how he's Not aggressive he's had some of the Shooting slums he actually didn't shoot
Well from three this year but still shot 48 from the field we've talked about him Being the connector you talk about Malleable man like this is someone that Can fit into whatever you ask lamelo's Out okay Gordon's be gonna come he's Going to come your ball handler you know Your half court possession scorer we Like Gordon Hayward when he's on the Floor he helps out a lot but you're Right the availability still alive a lot Of negative emotion that's why he gets In with those numbers better numbers Than a lot of people that are going to Be in front of them but barely gets in Terry Rozier he comes in at 32. so four Years with the Hornets It would contract polarizing for sure Even within the show I don't love the Contract and you do or you don't love it But you get the idea you were a bigger Fan of it than I I'd have Rosier higher Honestly yeah I figured I figured some People would Um I gotta hear the rest of us but I Just you know right now I'd have Rosier A little bit higher I'd have him over Jason Richardson oh yeah I mean Richardson was a flash in the pan Rosier's been here a couple of years now Scary Terry you know been a leader on This franchise brought the you know it Didn't work out but I mean brought the Team together uh two summers ago you
Know So so Terry above Jason Richardson I Could deal with Jay Rich just comes in I Mean Monster year for the Bobcats now Granted it was the Bobcats we also have Context for him being a good player with Golden state as well so Jason Richardson Comes in 0708 and you know starts all 82 Games okay available for everyone starts Every single one of them shoots over 40 From three on seven attempts per game And averages 22 points per game that Season it's the second most he would Ever Post in his entire NBA career now That Bobcats team wasn't very good he Did play a few games 14-0809 still very Good numbers so this is where all right If we have playoff performances as well Where they get to the play in a couple Times Terry Rozier doesn't play very Well in those games Sure Bobcats didn't make it but also Jason Richardson has better years in my Opinion or a better year that one's Tough I just felt like there was better I didn't feel like there was as much Polarization it felt like I would be Punishing Richardson for being a bobcat And if Terry Rozier is among the best Players on a team that barely gets the Play in and he's still like your third Best player I don't know I don't know I Don't know I that one's tough if you Wanted to put Terry at 31 I could agree
There but that's my list just to go over It real quickly arm and Gilliam 35 Cody Zello 34 Gordon Hayward 33 Terry Rozier 32 Jason Richardson 31. I'm going to put These uh lists on every Hornet's box Score.com by the way okay if you want to Go there you can keep track of them I'll Try to get those up today Okay yeah I mean the the rose year Richardson thing that's the one I could See flipping but Richardson was good I It was it's tough because that team Sucks so bad the the organization was Just in all right well we have a decent Player let's ship him out here let's Trade him to Phoenix you know so that's The list all right Doug I'm sorry you Know I still can't get over you changing 35. I've been I've been if I feel if it Feels like I've been a little checked Out this segment it's because I've been Scouring the internet trying to find Your Kevin o'conn man nickname uh There's not a lot out there that I can Work with in terms of Walker mail there Is this word montebank a person who Deceives others especially in order to Trick them out of their money a Charlatan so Walker montebank That's weak I love it I love it it's Only they can come up with have a better Name Walker this is your fault hey look Man it's you've never taken a mulligan Off the tee you know like come on it's
Okay we got one Walker yeah I like that Walker Mulligan yeah that's now yeah see I not even trying and I'm doing better Excellent so should I do the nicknames As well it seems like I should all right Coming up next are the lockdown Hornets Podcast Don't go to sleep on the Hornets just Yet I've got the top 35 Hornets Bobcats Of all time Doug has the best nicknames Of all time you be the judge on if he's Done too much research coming up next Lockdown Hornets is locked on Hornets Mitch cupcake will he do the thing that He has not done in season anything the Thing that he has not done is back to do Something just do do one thing You need to get a stick from outside and Become the meme in person because that It always comes back to do something do Something It's time for more of the locked on Hornets podcast Floor is yours Doug You can choose to do this however you Want to just give us the top five you've Already given us one so if you want to Give us the next four however you want To do it I'm not going to be nearly as Judging Change at number 35. good A little higher I'm just saying you Should change it no my list is Um uh sacrosanct it will not change it
Is I'm writing it on a stone tablet and Taking it I'm bringing it down off of Hornets mountain and telling you that Number one would say I'm Gonna Change Jason Richardson and Terry Rose here go Ahead I'm going to change that Dwayne Bacon Baconator is number 35. great Question on YouTube from tsunami daddy How exactly does one live up to the name Baconator because I said that part of my Criteria is that you have to you don't Have to but at some level of the Criteria is living up to the nickname if You didn't live up to it you've got to Make up for it in other areas like Creativity and some of these other Factors that I'm doing but tsunami daddy Wants to know how exactly does one live Up to the name the Baconator what are The criteria for that I'll tell you the Criteria is I once ate a Baconator in College when I was acting in short film I ate a Baconator when they gave us all A break and I fell asleep on the set And so that's the criteria a Baconator Not made me fall asleep that's not the Criteria the criteria is it affected me Physically and that's you know that's What I want to I want a nickname and a Player to affect me physically I want to Feel it in my body like I felt that Baconator making me fall asleep so That's okay great question though great Question no I was curious go ahead
What's number 34. number 34 we've talked About this one a lot walker uh this Person showed up and who wore it best of The first person ever to have a who wore It best and be featured on the top 35 Hornets nicknames list it's Gerald world Class glass Played on a 95-96 Hornets team the only Year that he was a member of the Charlotte Hornets weird team that 95 96 Hornets team if you don't remember Walker was the last Alan Bristow year he Was let go they mutually agreed uh to Move on after a 41 and 41 season where They missed the playoffs this is the Year after they traded Alonso morning Brought back Glen Rice and Matt Geiger Both of those will show up on this list Spoiler and uh it was the only Glenn Rice Larry Johnson year but it was Forgettable uh because Mugsy was injured For a majority of the year and they just Underperformed that year they brought Kendall Gill back and then traded him Again LJ was pissed off that they were Trading people that he didn't want the Team to trade and then of course in the Off season they trade LJ for mace so They bring in cowens and they go on to Win 50 games a couple of times also in That year they rallied to beat the Bulls By one point in March one of only 10 Losses for that story team so what do You think about that 95-96 Hornets I
Think that's a lot of research for World-class class I told you world-class What a nickname it just there's a beauty To it there's a sing-songy nature to it I like that you'll you'll hear some Nicknames that I have on here if they Roll off the tongue really well I'm Gonna rate it high Gerald world class Glass I mean listen to that you know This is an audio this show started and Is still in the audio space so when I Say Gerald world class class I mean That's just that's fun to listen to Like molasses dripping out of your mouth All right what's next one world-class Molasses that's a good one too all right Number 33 Mick Bob Josh McRoberts that Is not himself the tongue does not roll Off the tongue it is really simple You're right I like the Simplicity of it Uh Josh McRoberts from Carmel Indiana I Don't know if it's Carmel or Carmel You're the Indiana expert caramel it's Caramel yeah so Mick Bob you know he had The long hair like me Um he had the facial hair like me and There is The Stereotype of that Particular look that I think does Signify a little bit hillbilly it does Signify a little bit hick and so and I'm Not putting any positive or negative Connotation on that I'm just telling you That that's what it gives off I know I Wear it everything kind of like a chill
Billy like he was a cool dude so maybe We go with the chill Billy I like that I Don't know if you came up with that off The Dome or if that's if that's a thing But I like that a lot yeah Mick Bob so Mick Bob fit in that way I think it just Has that little like Bob hey old there's Old Mick Bob Um here's my question on Josh McRoberts Was the defining moment of his career as A Charlotte Bobcat which was brief Was his defining moment the the elbow to The throat that he gave LeBron James in That playoff series well he had some Sick dunks too I basically it's just the Year where he did everything like you Could run your offense through him Because he was such a good passer and You just had dudes cut off of him I Don't know a specific plays I just Remember the year where Clifford loved Him and was angry at the organization For not bringing him back I think that's A thing Uh but yeah sure I think okay you know Whatever you didn't do that research but That's fine I didn't know I just Researched I did watch the elbow to the Throat that he gave LeBron James in that Playoff series my question on that is Did it change NBA history because Miami Would go on to lose that uh finals Against San Antonio and then of course LeBron James would move on from the
Miami Heat no more championships for LeBron and Miami they would he would Move on to Cleveland and play The Warriors up yeah I mean that that elbow To the threat you know did it change NBA History did did that Um you know hurts LeBron James in some Way limit him in some way we'll never Know we will never know number 32 Lord Byron Byron Mullins Lord Byron oh no I Think this is one so obviously obviously I have an affection for Byron Mullins And what he was able to do for one of The worst teams in NBA history he Brought joy to that team uh he brought Dunks that a guy that looks like Byron Mullins should not be able to do and he Was fantastic I love Byron Mullins a lot Of people call them BJ Mullins so that's A nickname but I discarded that one for One I don't know if I coined it I don't Feel like I coined this but I don't I Couldn't find any any notes on here of Him being called Lord Byron and any Other publication so I'm not going to Claim it but I'm just going to say like I say Lord Byron Mullins because he was A poet on the court And pull with the dunk anyway Um so yeah there you go Lord Byron Number 32. all right Lord Byron uh That's that's one I probably would have Put a little bit further back but that's Okay uh you know like I I think this is
What we should do your list should be Finalized my list should just be Introduced by sections and then we work It out and then we try because you're Right yeah you're you're the you're the Stand-up comedian and I think that's Fine you're the stand-up comedian Workshopping your material you know and Some dingy Club on 22nd Street and I am I'm on before they got big that's what People are going to say about this list You know I got a Netflix special before They got monstrous I got a Netflix Special I'm on Broadway you're on 22nd Street so you keep work shopping I'm Just going to tell you that number 31 is The Rifleman Chuck person That's a great one and that one that Would like holds up in at it's Nationally known people know The Rifleman I don't know if people know Lord Byron no one knows that no one Knows that I'm but that's not what this Is but notoriety is a part of it Notoriety is one of The Riflemen is Big Yeah I don't know I don't know if I've Said this yet but there are 34 distinct Criteria that I use to create this list Okay and one of the 34 was notoriety Like that did help you but it wasn't all About that one of the other criteria is If I created or made famous the nickname Then it got a lot of points okay if it Was a unique creation of the lockdown
Hornets podcast then I gave it some Bonus points and I'm not sure Lord Byron Was but I'm not sure it wasn't either so Maybe I got half points for that anyway The Rifleman Chuck person he was Nicknamed after the star of the 50s Western TV show of the same name Chuck Uh the the name was The Rifleman the TV Show's name was The Rifleman but the Star of that show was Chuck Connors so Chuck person Chuck Connors also because He could shoot The Rifleman shoot uh Here's a little bit of trivia for you Chuck Connors the star of that TV show One of only 13 players to play in the NBA and Major League Baseball What do you think about that no that's That's incredible The Rifleman baby yeah Love it all right you're a big Chuck Person guy right You like Chuck person I don't know about Big but I definitely know Chuck person Well you're a huge Pacers fan so I just Felt like you know Chucky P you know is A big part of Pacers history but that Was that was a little before my time Though excuse me he's gonna be choked up Chuck person is so when we talk about The Pacers my introduction to the NBA Was that 2000 NBA Finals team against The Lakers and person wasn't on that so He was a little before my time but then You learned the history and so you Definitely know well you get will you
Award me one more moment to give you a Good Chucky person story I don't know if It's a good Chucky person story but it's A good story involving Chuck person Sure yeah go ahead we're already here All right so the this is the day after Christmas in 1990. how old were you in 1990 were you born Wasn't thought about yet DNE did not exist Walker the day after Christmas in 1990 the Pacers suited up Against the Celtics and before the game Chuck person was interviewed and said he Was gonna go bird hunting now these are Two Indiana guys keep in mind that's Right and what French Lick was that the Name of the city yeah the hick from French Lick yeah they didn't have Children back then So Chuck person was interviewed and said He was going to go bird hunting well we Know uh that Larry Bird did he was a Master trash talker and did not take Something chuck chuck would talk man Goodness gracious chuck would talk right So a bird was told of the quote and said He had a Christmas present for Chuck Person that he'd give him during the Game and so during this game after Launching a three-pointer next to the Pacers bench bird turned to person and Said merry bleeping Christmas the shot Of course went down so those those Scores are great the Larry Bird trash
Talking stories are great uh Chuck Person also involved in a Collegiate Improper benefit Scandal um once he was A coach if I'm not mistaken yeah so There you go ahead of his time ahead of His time money moving around in college A lot now you know a lot of these guys That you know got punished I think Probably uh well that was a you know There were federal charges involved in That I guess we could separate that Maybe from some of the other stuff That's been going down but yeah Chucky p All right is that the last one are we Good uh yeah I've got well yeah I Promised uh well Glenn rice is gonna Make this list at some point uh the Hammer is gonna definitely show up on This list arm and Gilliam might show up A couple of times he had a couple of Great nicknames so I can't wait to get To some of these names I will but I will Not I will not change this list yeah you Know I think I'm just like we'll go Different sections and then once we get Past the section we'll leave that locked In and then Walker Mulligan we'll move On and Walker Montana Bank yeah I like It you know we'll just we're just all Playing around man we're just all having Fun we're still having a good time That's it locked on Hornets thanks for Making us your first listen we're free And available anywhere wiggle room
Walker now I like wiggle room Walker Oh Wiggle and Walker yeah wiggling Walker That's it all right we've I've worked Shop that I will Workshop nicknames not Nicknames on my list but I will Workshop Nicknames for this show for the con men Out there in the in the NBA pundantry Space and wiggle and Walker mail I'm not Gonna get I'm not gonna let him get away With it folks I'm not gonna let him get Away with it I like it honestly you keep Calling me that I'll keep doing it baby Wiggling Walker that's fantastic make Sure you make your second listen game to Game NBA every moment every top Performance every result game to game Has you covered only on the locked on Podcast Network have a great rest of Your day more lists more updates on the List coming up tomorrow Thank you