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Will the Hornets finally move on from One of the veterans on the roster we'll Preview the game against Brooklyn and Then Doug has a surprise segment I have No clue what it's going to be but we'll Discuss it all today on locked on Hornets you are locked on Hornets your Daily Charlotte Hornets podcast part of The locked on podcast Network your team Every day in a minute cuz we Live it's lockdown hornets part of the Lock down podcast Network it's your team Every day thanks for making us your First listen we are free and available Anywhere you get your podcast and that Includes YouTube this episode is brought To you by Game Time today's episode Game Time yep Game Time download the game Time app create an account and use code Locked on NBA for $20 off your first Purchase that's Doug Branson you can Catch him on a substack every Hornets Boox score.com go check out all that Charlot Hornets content and I'm Walker Mail you can listen to me on WFNZ every Weekday from 12: to 300 p.m. 927 FM and If you're watching us on YouTube which You should be you can make us your first Listen there then you can see now I am The one with an old but different Background now there is the fish tank It's bar you can barely see it in this Frame but the fish tank is right there And uh we might might have to bring out
The fish puns we talked about that a Little bit I know a couple people Brought them to the table last time Rachel did an excellent job when she Sent in a bunch of fish pun so maybe we Can roll with that today Yeah yeah Brooklyn game tonight uh Harry Gills III on that Roster the Brooklyn fish nets that's who They're going to be playing all right Here you go all right boom baby yes uh Yeah and and just to let everybody know So with the construction going on the House liter and Doug can attest to this As soon as he pressed record on the cold Open that is when the power drill revved Up to where I could not hear anything Other than the power drill on the Outside and so I said hey I need 10 Minutes let me set up in the other room And now here we are so we're trying we Try Jennifer that's the best thing we Can do well I can't attest to anything Because I've never done construction on My house to add a seventh bedroom you Know and a spa room so no I can't attest To that I don't make that sweet sweet Radio professional money oh yeah I make Podcast money no you should come out and And check the and then maybe we can you Know drink some wine and stuff like that That'll be great that'll be excellent I Don't know why I took it so romantic Let's move on I don't know but I like it
Yeah this we are we've become very close As a podcast let's move on very quickly So Gordon Hayward trade rumors you see It in the first bullet uh point on the Tagboard and there are some out there Doug why don't you tell the people what The Gordon Hayward trade rumors are and Whether you might be interested oh boy I Don't I didn't have my rundown up I Wasn't ready for this but I will tell You That's okay I got it if you want me to So here's the thing yep so charlot so The there are reports that the Hornets Are getting multiple calls on Gordon Hayward and that there are multiple Playoff caliber teams that have called To gauge Gordon hayward's trade Availability that's what Hoops hype has Learned now in that article Charlotte is Focused on getting healthy and competing For a playoff spot Now however if Charlotte remains on the Outside of the playin picture the Hornets could give number two overall Pick Brandon Miller more minutes at Small forward by moving on from Hayward Who turns 34 years old in March okay so With that being said I didn't mean to Throw you on the throw that at you I Apologize but now that you know the Details with this Report is is this gonna happen are they Gonna trade Gordon Hayward right before
His contract ends we've been thinking This was going to happen for a long time Uh and and it hasn't happened and now it Seems like that if it did happen it Would almost be at the detriment of the Team because Gordon hayward's contract Is finally going to be lifted off of the Books and there is some concern that if They did deal with one of these playoff Caliber teams whatever that they would Have to bring back some kind of bad Situation in order to obtain something That they would want which is like Future draft picks and things that Typically you would acquire when moving A player with an expiring contract uh But we'll have to see I'm I'm curious as To how these rumors got out there um if This is the team uh you know subtly Leaking that hey you know Gordon Hayward Will be available and oh yeah listen We're but listen we're try we're still Trying to make the playoffs he's not Available and multiple playoff caliber Teams we're talking to a lot of what's That what's that oh that was another Playoff caliber team trying to talk to Me right now like is that that kind of Situation or what I don't know I don't Know what to make of this because like If you look at Gordon's stats this Season I'm not sure that he's like entirely Attractive to a playoff caliber team
We're not talking about a guy who's Playing his best basketball we're Talking about a guy right now who's Playing the worst basketball of his Career sans's rookie season I mean you Know in terms of his shot efficiency um He's in the like third and fourth Percentile in terms of true shooting Effective field goal percentage his Numbers in the mid-range which is like What Gordon Hayward does offensively Like that's what you're buying is Mid-range that's totally in the tank He's shooting 32.7% from the mid-range Which is bottom near bottom of the League so I I don't I don't know what Playoff caliber teams would be buying Yeah I I do think that Gordon Hayward For playoff teams I do think he is a Perfect buy candidate because even if Gordon Hayward is 34 and he's not going To get any better I at least compared to What he was last year I don't expect Those numbers to be that bad the rest of The year and so if you go after after Gordon Hayward and he might be able to Help you off the bench because a playoff Team is not starting Gordon Hayward but The real value is the getting the $30 Million off of the books thing so the Playoff caliber teams yeah they might Want to go after Gordon Hayward and give Up something but also that means they're Going to free up $30 million in cap
Space this upcoming off season and so The playoff caliber teams are then going To have a bunch of cap space to then Make those playoff caliber teams better So at least that's the thought in free Agency once a bunch of players hit the Market and so now you're right Doug it Doesn't mean that I think Gordan Hayward Is so valuable on the floor that you Can't get rid of him that's not what This means at all you're right he's not Playing well whatsoever what it does Mean is that I want that 30 mil myself That's I want that space it doesn't mean That the Hornets are gonna make great Use of it but at least there is an open Door at least you get off of this Contract that you've had for a while It's not been a great one given his Injury history but now it's almost an Asset his contract and this is somebody That I don't expect to continue to shoot As badly as poorly as he is last thing For me Brandon Miller's already getting A lot of minutes like I'm fine with Giving Brandon more but Brandon Gordon Hayward is not taking a ton away from Him like if you look he's averaging About 30 if you look at what he's done In the month of November even in October When it was Gordon Hayward out there too He was still giving you over 30 minutes He's averaging Brandon Miller 32 uh Excuse me I'm sorry that was Gordon
Miller but he's still averaging over 30 Minutes a game that's what Brandon Miller is averaging so it's like that That's enough for me if you want to give Him 34 a game okay but I I don't want to Give up $30 million just to create that Extra two minutes yeah a couple of Things I mean you would at least get to Slot Brandon Miller at some point in the Position that he I think will ultimately Play which is the three and not the two So but the problem is that if he starts A significant portion of the rest of the Season he goes from getting cooked by Jaylen Brunson to getting cooked by RJ Barrett in the Nicks example here right Like the the problem that we noted Defensively for him like good defensive Player will be I think potentially a Great defensive player in the future but He doesn't have the size to guard big Threes and he doesn't have the quickness To stay with uh you know super quick Twos and so you're going to see that Continue to play out if he were to start Significant amounts of time they're Going to to figure out a way to to deal With that and that's fine figure out a Way to deal with it because that's Ultimately going to be the player you Know 2 3 four years from now that is Anchoring your team so ultimately I'm Fine with that just kind of wanted to Put that point out there the Hornets
Have an issue and that issue is that They should probably move Gordon Hayward As quickly as possible before he does Get injured like every game that he Plays you risk another injury and then It suddenly and we've seen this happen Before like I'm sure they would have had Trade opportunities in years past to get Off this money but he ends up getting Injured before the trade deadline but The max value that you can get for Gordon Hayward is not going to happen on November 30th it's going to happen on You know January 31st or whatever 30 Days after September yeah January 31st Like that's going to be your max value Right before the trade deadline and the Other weird issue is that if you trade Gordon Hayward for draft picks and Whatever salary mockin naations have to Happen to it happen you're essentially As an organization saying okay we give We're not going to make the playoffs We're not a playing team we're not Focusing on that anymore but then you're What what does that mean for the front Office because like to me it's like it's Play in or bus for this front office for This coaching staff so the same front Office that would be throwing in the Towel would essentially be throwing in I Guess their throwing in their whole Their desk their office and you know Boxing their stuff up and leaving cuz
That would be to me that would be it so It's it's a weird situation overall but But I do Walker I do have a perfect Candidate to trade for Gordon Hayward And I can tell you next okay great tease Coming up next on the lockdown Hornets Podcast don't go to sleep on the Hornets Just yet Doug will give you that Delicious nugget and we will preview the Game against Brooklyn tonight but not Before we talk about game time game time Is the only ticketing app that gives you Complete peace of mind with your Purchase that's why this episode is Brought to you by game time you can see The view from your seat before you buy So you know exactly what to expect when You arrive Allin prices show your total Up front so you know you're getting a Great deal without hidden fees buy Tickets and seconds with just two Taps It's that easy they're obsessed with Finding ways to help you save money on Tickets and they have deals on tickets Right up to the start of the event and Even an hour after it starts it's the Place the place to find last minute Seats take the guest work out of buying Tickets with game time and you can Download download the game time app and Create an account use code locked on NBA For $20 off your first purchase terms Apply again create an account and redeem Code l o c d o n NBA locked on NBA for
$20 off download game time today last Minute tickets lowest price guaranteed More lockdown Hornets Ahead Doug you're right I didn't think About the aspect of the front office Probably not going to be here anyway and So what they're trying to do Theoretically what their job is to do is To set this franchise up the best it Possibly can be for the future but the Future does not mean them that they are Not a part of the future and so now it I Go back it's a different situation but I Always think of Stan Van Gundy in this Situation which I guess there is the Close connection to Steve Clifford here But when Stan Van Gundy had control of Being both the coach and roster and was The GM He goes all in for a Blake Griffin trade And he goes all in for Blake Griffin to Help him right now when he was on the Hot seat and Blake Griffin and the Detroit Pistons they get to the Postseason he was actually really good For the Pistons but it wasn't about Blake Griffin it was about how much Better did that make their team and set Them up for the future and they get to The eight seed get destroyed I think in Like four games I think it was a sweep Against Milwaukee and that was it that Was the most success that that Blake Griffin team really had I believe and so
You're making the decision for yourself Because you can understand you want to Do everything you can to keep your job And so that seems like a good idea at The time but it's probably not a great Idea for the franchise and so is that Something that Mitch cup Che is going to Do look I very different situations with Stan and Mitch but it's the same idea as Far as am I gonna make something am I Going to make a move now that benefits Me or at least that I think has a shot At giving me some more life or am I Gonna try to do what's best for the Organization in the future and that's a Dicey situation with Gordon Hayward on The books right now oh definitely now do You want to hear my that's all great uh The very smart things you just said There you want to hear let's give the People what they actually want which is A a mock trade everybody wants the mock Trade that's true that's true so do you Want my perfect candidate for a Gordon Hayward trade at give me your mock trade Come on let's hear it so I haven't I Don't know that I have the exact terms Down but I'll tell you how I stumbled Upon this team I was looking for because I'm I'm asking myself like if they trade Gordon Hayward obviously draft picks Could be a thing that you acquire but Could they come away with a player that Would help them at the two positions
That I think are most of need right now Which is a backup point guard or uh or Or somebody that could take some actual Starting point guard minutes while Lamelo is out and then the center Position they need a center that can Shoot or a big that can shoot um to Provide some more spacing in that big Rot and right now with Nick Richards out They just need a backup big so I was Looking for a big that can shoot and I Found Dario shich who but contract too Small but he plays for the Golden State Warriors let's think about what's going On in Golden State Warriors land right Now talk about a team that needs to shed Some salary they've got some interesting Uh situations that they're coming up on You know Klay Thompson not playing well Right now but is so liked by that core That losing him would be I think Detrimental to the team's morale such That you're going to prevent future Playoff runs future Championship runs so Maybe they're finding ways how can we Find some ways in the books here I think A Gordon Hayward trade might do it and There's another player that they have That was just traded to them that is Also a point guard who do you think I'm Talking about from are you trying to Bring him home again are you trying BR Bring him home again I'm talking about Chris Paul who who listen to this has a
$30 million contract so 30 and n Uh with shich I don't know if that trade Exactly works with Gordon Hayward okay $30 million but get this next season It's only partially guaranteed beginning In June so you could dump that contract Both teams win what do you think um the Only thing is I think Chris Paul I guess I haven't been checking up on as much on Him but hasn't he been playing well for Them and so if their goal is to still Continue to make a run at the postseason If he's been playing well then I don't Know if they would be you thrilled to Get rid of him like that well that's Okay that's fine but everybody has to Make sacrifices okay and if you're the Golden State Warriors and you're looking Towards the future maybe it slightly Look you've got enough Stars you got I Mean you you you throw a rock and you Hit an All-Star there I mean stack them Up that was the whole thing that was one Of our bumps one time so you know they Can afford to lose someone if it means That they can retain Klay Thompson and Keep that main core happy cuz Chris Paul's not part of the main core but he Sol he could solve an issue this season For the horn and I and I'm trying to Think of a deal that a that a mitch Cup Who is trying to save his job would do And also not hurt the team long term That's why to me it's not like the
Ultimate deal that I would make but it Is the perfect deal for a front office That is both trying to save their job This season and set the team up for Future success um I came up with a crazy One do you want to hear another crazy One I love it forget this Brooklyn game Who cares about this Brooklyn game give Me all the my trads we by the way by the Way we as a podcast we are not beneath This we are not beneath the Zack LaVine Talk because it's fun because in a Season like this I want to talk Zack LaVine I want to talk trades I want to Talk the future because I have a Positive vision of the I don't think the Front office does for some reason I have A positive vision of the future and I Want to see that enacted so we as a Podcast I'm just going to tell you right Now we're not you know we're not fishing For clicks but we are not beneath Talking about this no no we are not all Right so I am putting it in the trade Machine now just to see exactly how it Would work but it would be very close And uh I think we're going to try this Trade this trade is successful with the Picks of course needing to come in so This is what it would be this one is Truly sicko I'm going to throw up Behavior um how about trading Gordon Hayward to a team that has been linked To him and like thought processes from
National pundits the Philadelphia 76ers Okay and and in order for you to not Bring on any more money in the future What you could also do is bring back Marcus Morris 17 Million I'm sorry people I'm sorry $17 Million he's gonna make but just this Year so it's right twin or wrong twin is That the right twin or the wrong twin Yeah Marcus Morris you bring him in and Talk about bringing people home Doug Wait yeah no the guy they just acquired In a trade with James Harden are you Kidding bring him bring him back Nick Patum bring back bring Backck Marcus Morris trade picks there's Nothing coming out and the 2024 cuz Philadelphia I was checking this out too Philadelphia does own their 20 24 first Rounder and so if you got the first Round pick yeah man The Hornet The Hornet should just swap Nick Batum and Gordon Hayward for the rest of Eternity That should be the NBA rules should be Somehow Gordon Hayward and Nick Batum Have to swap places it's like a Freaky Friday for um terrible forwards well It's only right because with with Nick Batum now I shouldn't say terrible Disappointing they're not terrible They're good basketball players in their Own right they're just um disappointing You thought you were done paying Nick
Patum you thought you were done with the Stretched claws but no you brought it Back and now you're actually paying him Again for the fourth straight year Except now he's playing for your team Those are the trades that we came up With roast us roast us we deserve or Aggregate us I would like I would like Michael Scot to pick that up on Hoops Hype yeah oh man was the DeAndre Aon Time that I got aggregated like it was An actual thing like no I just yeah That's not what happened it was weird All right we got one more segment to go Maybe we get to the Brooklyn game we Also have a surprise segment coming up Next on the lockdown Hornets podcast Don't go to sleep on the Hornets just Yet I have no clue what's coming up to Be honest with you but don't go to sleep On us because Eric Collins told you not To this episode is brought to you by FanDuel we love FanDuel we use them for BET The Buzz Doug if you want to pull up That line for me in just a moment I can Go to you and then we can see what that Line is for hornets and Nets as the Weather gets colder the NFL offers stay Hot on FanDuel right now new customers Get $150 in bonus Bets with any winning $5 money line bet that's 150 bucks if Your team wins and if you've been Thinking about joining FanDuel there's No better time to get in on the action
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But also squeeze in some NBA one more Segment to go lock down Horn Doug I just want to apologize to The people for how truly sick that Segment was I I I will never apologize For being sick no no you don't no you Are accused of never being accountable Don't don't apologize now I will Apologize for how sick that segment was And by the way before we end I I did Want to say thank you to everybody that Uh showed us the picture tweeted at us With your Spotify wrapped I I feel like I don't know if you feel this way it was The most amount of screenshots that we Got for Spotify rap season um I I I Think we got so many with us being your Number one listen in your top four maybe We'll lose to Bill okay Bill Simmons We'll lose to you on at least one okay We'll lose to a couple people every now And then but a lot of us uh a lot of you Had us as your number one listen and man It's going to get Dusty in here but we Appreciate the listeners it's all the Love in the world that allow us to do What we do so we appreciate the hell out You uh the right thing to say here is That it's it's humbling to see that but In all honesty it's not humbling at all Um it gives me a huge head and I Appreciate that I appreciate you just Continuing to feed my confidence and Because um it allows me not to apologize
You cannot take accountability you Cannot be held accountable for something If you never apologize that's what Politics and professional sports Continues uh to teach me I'm just Learning the lessons of the things that I cover there you go Doug learning in Every day the the head is getting bigger Because he's learning but also the ego Is growing what is this surprise segment You speak of Doug I don't know if all of Our listeners or if any of our listeners Know this because we don't talk about it A lot uh Walker has many jobs in this Industry he's obviously on WFNZ but I Don't know if you know this he also Calls games for Queens men's B Basketball and recently he got an Opportunity for a big call Queens going Up against is it the Rival Gardener web Is that a Big R rival but maybe like a Budding rivalry yeah I was serving as The color analyst alongside Nick Claus On the call and so yeah that did Happened last night yeah and they so the The situation here is that Queens men's Basketball got a big wasn't a buzzer Beater but it almost was a buzzer beater It was a game-winning shot and Walker Got to be part of the call so the first Voice you hear will be Walker's partner On the call Nick and then you'll get a Little dose of Walker here we go wow Mclen for the win
Splash 83 to 80.9 seconds on the Clock that bucket not so quiet Nick BJ Mclen continuing to deliver for this Queen team we saw him do it last year Who better would you want to shoot that Three-point shot than somebody already Experienced in game winners Okay there you go so there was the game Winning call that bucket not quiet Nick Is so give give us the context there why Was why was that because obviously Nick Said something to the effect of that There was a quiet bucket yeah well no it Wasn't even Nick it was me who so BJ Mclen scored a career high last night Stretch big very good three-point Shooter as you could see there by the Stroke and so he had gotten to 20 or n 19 or 20 at the time and I had said Believe it or not this actually has been A quiet total for BJ mclen despite Approaching his career high and then as Soon as I say that the next possession He Nails the gamewinner and that's why I Say that bucket not quiet Nick and then You see the replay and I break that down So yeah that was the call that bucket Not so quiet a little weird a little Weird that you brought that up but I Appreciate it thank you for the surprise Segment well I just want to I just want Folks to know that you are a Multifaceted Talent on this show and I
And I really wanted to um ask you how You felt about that call did you feel Like you nailed it that bucket not quiet Nick I like that I I thought it was Sharp and I want to play it many times On this show in the future I'm just Going to get you ready for that that Bucket not quiet Nick that bucket not so Quiet I think maybe because so what you Didn't show at least I didn't think you Showed it there I couldn't hear the Audio at first but with at the end they Start going over the replay and then so I start breaking it down I I might have Talked too much at the end but but That's only thing like maybe a little Too much but I overall I think it was Okay I I'm with you I like the the Context driven line if you've been Watching most of the time people will Tell you to give a standalone call but I Don't know man I'm a radio Podcast guy Like I I like doing color analyst work I Just I'm gonna try to do the Creative Thing and that seemed to be more Creative than trying to give you a Standalone call and so that's what Happened by the way last thing on that Call I the Nick names you know you and I We both love rolling with it you came Out with a top 30 list that ended up Being like top 28 cuz I think got to get To that by the way where you are gonna Get to that it is it's on Deck don't
Worry about it um Dayton alberry had one Of the craziest dunks I've ever seen on Someone in in person it was I mean it Was as disrespectful a dunk as I've ever Seen live or close to it right certainly At the college level Dayton alberry came Up with a nickname on the Fly The Dayton flyer you like that I like it Yeah we got that one in there too that's What I was most proud of that bucket not Quiet Nick next time Nick Richards hits A big shot I mean that's just a Guarantee that bucket not quiet Nick all Right um all right so Brooklyn you got Some thoughts on this next game tonight Important Must-win yes all of them are must-wins Now every game is extremely important I I do think that so if the Hornets lost The first game to the Wizards because The whiz went five out and they got Exposed it actually was because the Nets Did it the first time right so the Hornets made amends against the Wizards By Getting and it looks like Walker's Computer has died as he moved to a Second location because of the Construction A Perfect Ending and really This is what I get uh for praising Walkers for taking a segment to praise Walker's professionalism his Multifacetedness his ability to be ready For the big moment of course that's when
His computer dies so here we go once Again up to me to carry the sicko Segment the third segment and I'll give You a few of my thoughts on Brooklyn Number one Brooklyn is your Quintessential NBA average team right Now 9 and8 record around 114 offensively Uh in terms of their rating around 114 Defensively a net rating of almost zero Well balanced team now the F if you Remember the first meeting against Brooklyn was during the time when lamelo Was struggling so didn't score a lot of Points if you're looking for some hope That the Hornets could function Offensively in a game without lamelo This would be the game to Hope because They scored nearly 125 points against Brooklyn in uh that first meeting the Problem was they allowed the Brooklyn Nets to score 130 plus because Brooklyn Unique situation they were without their Starting center and starting power Forward it forced the Nets to go small And and they took it to the Hornets in Transition early in that game if you Remember they gave Mark Williams all the Dunks and said you're not going to shoot Threes and uh that really threw the Hornets for a loop they did not adjust Until too late in the game um and that Was a big discussion Point around that Game so totally different situation here They're going to be without Cam Thomas
Their big- time leading scorer they're Going to be without Ben Simmons Whose Size can give the Hornets a lot of Problems up front uh so those are both Two advantages for the Hornets they're Also going to be without Dennis Smith Jr Who unfortunately is not going to get uh That Revenge game opportunity uh because He sprained his back is going to be out For a while so unfortunate for Dennis Smith Jr who was like just by the Numbers it doesn't look great but I mean If you read up on what he's done for Brooklyn while he was available he was a Key playmaking piece for them off the Bench um he has done good things for Brooklyn sad that the Hornets could not Uh retain him because they certainly Could use some good point guard play Right now in the absence of lamelo ball All right that's going to do it thank You so much uh for hanging with us here For another episode we will we will be Back tomorrow to recap this game against The Brooklyn Nets and give you any Updates on any kind of trade rumors Because we are not beneath that as a Show thanks go check out lockon NBA uh Go check out our sponsors game time FanDuel all the people that make this Show happen until next time go Hornets Go America let's swarm Charlotte that Bucket not so quiet Ni
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